Tuesday 24 December 1918 – RE8 Crash at Saultain

Christmas Eve, 1918:  an RE8 of “A” Flight, 42 Squadron RAF crashes on take-off at Saultain.  Nobody seems particularly hurt, or in fact bothered.  The only casualties looks as if they were the aircraft, and the young pilot’s wounded pride.  It’s an occasion for a group photograph. This was probably the most exciting event of the day, by some margin.  The squadron’s Daily Routine Orders are consistent with essentially nothing happening.  

Daily Routine Orders

42 Squadron's Daily Routine Orders for Christmas Eve 1918
42 Squadron’s Daily Routine Orders for Christmas Eve 1918. Click for larger image.

Apart from the routine appointment of the Orderly Officer and the NCO in charge of the Guard: nothing.

‘Finis’

Here is the evocative group photograph, which is in Greg’s collection with the simple caption ‘Finis’:

Photo of crashed RE8 C2969 at Saultain on Christmas Eve, 1918, captioned 'Finis'.
‘Finis’ – crashed RE8 C2969 at Saultain on Christmas Eve, 1918. Click for larger image. Credit: Greg’s War Collection.

Although the photograph is undated and otherwise unmarked, there is enough information in it for us to find out what happened, when, and where.

Investigating the Crash at Saultain

The aircraft is (or at least was) an RE8.  The photograph’s presence in Greg’s collection is already a strong indication that it was on the strength of 42 Squadron.  The large ‘A’ on the fuselage shows that it was an “A” flight machine.  But the key to unlocking further information is the serial number on the tail: C2969.

The ever useful databases on Air History’s RFC pages tell us that this particular aircraft:

  • came to 42 Squadron RAF from No 1. Aero Supply Depot (ASD) only on 1 November 1918;
  • crashed on 24 December 1918; and
  • returned (in bits) to No 1. ASD on 1 January 1919.  (More on No. 1 ASD in the post for  3 June 1918.)

The casualty report for the crash, recorded in The National Archives’ file AIR 1/865 and also in Air History’s RFC pages, was as follows:

Crashed in climbing turn to avoid trees and church on t/o [take off] for test. 2Lt WY Gothorp Ok/2Lt DF Turpin Ok

And since 42 Squadron was based at Saultain at the time, that is where Lts. Gothorp and Turpin would have taken off from, and crashed.

2/Lt William Yeats Gothorp

Lt Gothorp, the pilot, was even younger than Greg – by almost a year.  Perhaps he is the one in the photograph by the pilot’s compartment, in flying kit, standing on the root of the lower wing.  Certainly he looks very young.  He also looks mortified.  From the casualty report it’s difficult to attribute the crash to anything other than pilot error.  It’s not as if the church and the trees were new obstacles that had suddenly arrived. No wonder he has the expression of one who wishes that the ground would open up and swallow him.

William Yeats Gothorp was born on 10 December 1899, which meant that he celebrated his 19th birthday only two weeks before this day, which he would probably have preferred to forget.  A register in Bedale, Yorkshire records his birth as having been entered in January 1900, which would tally with his pre-Christmas birth date.  Sadly, another Yorkshire register, this time in Ripon, records in March 1920 the death of a William Y. Gothorp, who was born “abt 1900”.  If this was the same William Gothorp, then he didn’t live long beyond his 20th birthday.  

2/Lt Douglas Frederick Turpin

The observer was Lt Turpin, who was bit older. Maybe he’s the one sitting on top of the fuselage, by the observer’s compartment, with his feet dangling down the side.  He looks pretty fed up.

Born on 4 March 1898 in south London, Douglas Frederick Turpin would have been 20 at the time of the crash.  The London Gazette for 10 December 1918 records that he was granted a temporary commission as a Second Lieutenant (Observer Officer) on 16 November 1918.  So he’d not been long in the job.

Post-war records show that a Douglas Frederick Turpin of the right age to be our man was a commercial traveller in textiles when he married Marjorie Eleanore Taylor on 8 April 1925.  The death of a Douglas F. Turpin, born “abt 1899” is recorded in a March 1964 northern Surrey register.


Thanks to Margaret Sheard for sourcing the register information.


The Others in The Photograph

The identifications above of Lts. Gothorp and Turpin are tentative.  But that’s better than we can do for the rest of them.  Just possibly, the figure on the right in a peaked hat and a mackintosh, with one arm akimbo and a rueful grin, is Greg.  He had memories from 4 June 1918 of what it was like to write-off an RE8!  But I wouldn’t swear it was him.   

And the rest?  Well, the facial expressions and bodily attitudes still speak to us over the intervening 100 years. The sergeant standing apparently in the observer’s compartment to the left of Lt Turpin seems to be thinking “These kids…”.  And to the left of him, the NCO (warrant officer, maybe?) wearing the forage cap and gloves standing in front of the fuselage almost has written on his face “What a bloody shambles”.  While the young airman on the far left looks as if he knows that it would be a lot better for him if he said nothing at all.

At the front of the wrecked plane are a pair also in flying kit who seem to be relieved that it wasn’t them. To their right, there’s another very young and worried looking fellow in flying kit, apparently thinking “There but for the grace of God…” Next to him is a grinning officer who looks as if he’s going to be ribbing the unfortunate flight crew mercilessly in the mess that evening.  And on the far right, there are some boys who no doubt came scuttling on to the scene as soon as they saw the plane come down: Qu’est-ce qu’il se passe ici, M’sieurs?”

The Photograph Itself

It’s interesting that the photograph was evidently posed and taken with a ‘proper’ military camera.  This wasn’t a mere snapshot taken with a VPK – a Vest Pocket Kodak – such as Greg had (as explained in About).  Perhaps it was symptomatic in these post-armistice days that everyone had enough time on their hands to take part.  Even if poor Lt Gothrop wished they had better things to do than memorialise his evident discomfort.

And the caption is symbolic.  ‘Finis’ – the end.  Not the end of the fighting. That was on 11 November 1918 on the Western Front.  And not the end of 42 Squadron’s time in France.  That would be in the new year.  But it conveys the sense of the end of an era.  This chapter is closed; time to move on.  

Haec est finis.


 

Sunday 7 July 1918 – Elevator Rocking Bar Shot

On a murky and misty day – “frightfully dud” was the verdict – Greg was down for a Counter Battery Patrol/Artillery Patrol in the morning but signalled that the weather was unfit.  He dropped one bomb, had an elevator rocking bar shot, made a bad landing and bust the prop.  Then he took another machine up, but the weather was still bad.

Log Book

Log BookLog Book

Date: 7.7.18 
Hour: 8.15 
Machine type: RE8 
No.: E27 
Passenger: Lt Pring 
Time: 30 mins 
Height: 1500 
Course/Remarks: CBP. V Dud.  Elevator rocking bar shot.
Date: 7.7.18 
Hour: 9.45 
Machine type: RE8 
No.: 2327 
Passenger: Lt Pring 
Time: 1 hr 10 m 
Height: 1500 
Course/Remarks: CBP. Very misty & cloudy.

Diary

Diary

Sunday July 7th 1918. Wrote AD [?]. Sent field card home.

8.15-8.45 Took off with four bombs.  Could only get one of them off.  Frightfully dud morning, low clouds and heavy mist.  Got the right hand elevator rocking bar shot.  Overshot on landing & ran into some boxes & broke propeller.  1 bomb.

9.15-11.0 Took up Hutchinson’s bus with a shoot.  Too dud. Good landing.

Squadron Records

The day’s flying is fleshed out a bit in the official report:

Squadron Record Book

Type and Number: R.E.8.27

Pilot and Observer: P. Lt Gregory. O. Lt Pring

Duty: Artillery Patrol

Hour of Start: 8.15am

Hour of Return: 8.45am

Remarks: 
8.30am 1-25lb bomb dropped at K.34.b.5.5. [Rue de Bournoville, Merville] Burst unobserved. 

8.35am sent U.L. U.R. U.D. C.8.  [Unfit for counter-battery work; unfit for artillery registration; unfit for photography; clouds at 800 ft] Very heavy ground mists and fog.  Machine hit on elevator rocking bar.  No E.A. A.A. or E.K.B.  [No enemy aircraft, anti-aircraft fire or enemy kite balloons]

Vis. very poor.  Obs. By P. & O.

Because there were no enemy aircraft and no anti-aircraft fire, it looks as if the rocking bar must have been hit with small arms fire from the ground.  Something of a lucky hit for the shooter at 1500 ft through cloud.

Type and Number: R.E.8.2327

Pilot and Observer: P. Lt Gregory. O. Lt Pring

Duty: Artillery Patrol

Hour of Start: 9.55am

Hour of Return: 10.55am

Remarks: 
10.0am small explosion at E.30.d.4.4. [La Couronne, between Vieux Berquin and Neuf Berquin] 

10.5am sent U.L. U.R. U.D. C.15.  [Unfit for counter-battery work; unfit for artillery registration; unfit for photography; clouds at 1500 ft] Clouds in places below 1200'. Very thick mist prevented observation. No E.A. A.A. or E.K.B.  [No enemy aircraft, anti-aircraft fire or enemy kite balloons]

Vis. very poor.  Obs. By P. & O.

Wrote AD [?]. Sent field card home.

So there was time left for correspondence.  Not sure who “AD” is – or even if it is AD.  If it were AG (which is just possible), it could be either Alice Gregory (Greg’s sister) or Albert Gertrey (Greg’s fellow student from flying training in Yatesbury).

Sunday 23 June 1918 – Feeling Groggy, Crash at Rely

Greg’s first day out of bed (just) after the flu was a bad day for the squadron, with a crash at Rely aerodrome.

Diary

Diary entry: crash at Rely

Sunday 23rd. Got up, & walked round a bit feeling groggy.  Macdonald [sic, should be McDonald] & Marsh spun into the ground & caught fire, both rescued & taken to hospital.

McDonald & Marsh Crash at Rely

Lt Hugh McDonald (as his name was spelt in the official report) was the pilot.

And 2nd Lt Cuthbert Alban Marsh was the observer, and was also Greg’s observer on his near-disastrous first day on the Front, when they crashed in crops at Trézennes.  On that occasion, Marsh was thrown clear:

Tuesday 4 June 1918 – Near Disaster on the First Day on the Front

Today, neither McDonald nor Marsh was so lucky.  An extract of the official casualty report said:

[C2348 RE8] Got into spin owing to loss of speed on a turn crashed and caught fire on t/o for artly obs [take off for artillery observation].

Thanks to http://www.airhistory.org.uk/rfc/home.html for the casualty information.

“Taken to Hospital”

There were two hospital facilities at Aire-sur-la-Lys at the time.  User mhifle of The Great War Forum says that the 54th Casualty Clearing Station came to Aire on 16 April 1918.  This CCS was also known as the ‘1/2nd London CCS’. He gives its previous locations with the BEF in France as:

  • Hazebrouck 1 April 1915 to 31 July 1915
  • Merville 1 Aug 1915 to 28 March 1918
  • Haverskerque 29 March 1918 to 15 April 1918

At Aire, the 54th CCS  joined No 39 Stationary Hospital, which was there from May 1917 to July 1918 according to The Long, Long Trail.  So McDonald and Marsh may have been taken to one of these hospital facilities.

“British Casualty Clearing Station”

The Greg’s War collection includes the following  aerial photograph captioned “British Casualty Clearing Station”, which is otherwise unidentified. 

British Casualty Clearing Station Aerial Photo
High-angle oblique aerial photograph from the Greg’s War Collection entitled “British Casualty Clearing Station”. Click for larger image.

It is possible that this was the 54th CCS at Aire (maybe with No 39 Stationary Hospital also in shot).  The landscape looks similar to that just west of Aire, upstream along the Lys valley, near the village of Mametz – Mametz (Pas de Calais) that is, not Mametz (Somme).

A high-angle oblique view created in Google maps. (It’s not entirely successful, as Google has not 3D-imaged the area.) The aspect is looking northeast from just south of the Route de Mametz. Click to go to Google maps to see the location.  

But I’m not entirely sure that this is the same place.  In this instance, it’s hard to tell how much the landscape has changed over the years. Without any hard evidence of where the photo was taken, and without even knowing just where in or around Aire the 54th CCS was located, I can only identify it provisionally.

Tuesday 11 June 1918 – Got Hopelessly Lost

On the first day of war flying a week after his crash on 4 June 1918, Greg had a terrible day:  he got hopelessly lost (in his own unsparing words), ended up at Bergues, near Dunkirk, and then smashed up his undercarriage in an awful landing (ditto) when he finally made it back to the aerodrome at Rely.

Log Book

Log book

Date: 11.6.18 
Hour: 9.50 
Machine type: RE8 
No.: E27 
Observer: Lt Roche 
Time: 2 hrs 
Height: 200 – 1000 
Course: Counter Batt. Patrol 
Remarks: Lost. Landed at Bergues, Belgium.  Smashed undercarriage on drome.

Diary

Diary

Diary

Tuesday June 11th.  Gwen E27. On Counter Battery Patrol, from 7am to 10am.

Went up at 7 & landed again, weather dud.

Clouds at 600ft.

Took off again at 9am & ran into clouds at 300ft over the second line.

Got hopelessly lost; after about an hour’s flying sighted a small aerodrome.  Made a good landing & enquired where I was.  Found I was in Bergues, 6 miles from Dunkirk, Belgium.

After a rest, took off again & followed the main road at about 200ft, via Cassel & St Omer to the drome.

Made an awful landing, smashed the undercarriage.

I don’t know what the reference to “Gwen” signifies.  An affectionate name for Greg’s newly assigned aircraft, serial number E27, perhaps?

Bergues

What a day for a novice on the front line.  But it wasn’t all bad: at least he didn’t stray over the German line.  Bergues is some 5 miles (8 km) SSW of Dunkirk and is in France, not Belgium.  The German front line was about 18 miles (26 km) ENE from Bergues, at Rousdamme not far from where it emerged on the coast at Nieuwpoort (both in Belgium).

Perhaps during his rest in Bergues Greg sampled the local cheese that has been made there for centuries and for which the village is still known today. 

Fromage de Bergues
Fromage de Bergues – purchased from the excellent Comptoir Laitier Fovet in Aire-sur-la-Lys, an essential stop for any cheese aficionado visiting the Pas-de-Calais/Nord region of France

Today, we have no more idea than Greg did as to what course he took on his way to Bergues.  It was unlikely to be the straight line shown on this map, but the return journey following the roads via Cassel and St Omer is easier to be confident about:

Map Rely-Bergues
Getting hopelessly lost and coming home on a modern map (courtesy Google). Click for larger image. Click here to see full Google terrain map (opens in new tab).

Smashing the undercarriage on landing must just have topped his day.  He probably wished he hadn’t got up that morning.

Tuesday 4 June 1918 – Near Disaster on the First Day on the Front

This was Greg’s first day on the Western Front, and it nearly ended in disaster, as his log book (laconically) and diary (rather more more fully) explain:

Log book

Log book
Log book
Date: 4.6.18 
Hour: 10 am 
Machine type and No.: RE8 
No.: E102 
Passenger: Lt. Marsh 
Time: 1 hr 
Height: 2500 
Course: Inspection of line. 
Remarks:  Engine conked. Crashed at Triezennes (102 written off)

Diary

Diary
Diary
Tuesday June 4th 1918.  RE8. E102.

Went up at 10am with Lt Marsh as observer.

At 11pm [sic, sc. 11am] engine cut out east of St Flories, just over our line, due to inlet valve stuck open.

Managed to make disused aerodrome at Triezennes but found Infantry Battalion on parade.

Turned off into an adjoining field, – standing crops 6 feet high.

Crashed very badly, machine turned complete somersault.

Observer thrown clear, – self buried under debris, succeeded in getting out safely, – sprained shoulder & split lip.

Had lunch with C.O. of the Battalion & returned to Squadron by tender.

The day’s events are shown on this map:

Greg's first visit to the front, shown on 1:40,000 map
Greg’s first visit to the front, shown on 1:40,000 map (each numbered square is 1,000 yds). Rely to St Floris is ~10 miles (16 km). Click for larger image. Credit: IWM/TNA/GreatWarDigital

The Front Line at St Floris

St Floris, a settlement on the River Lys just to the east of St Venant, was where the British Amusories-Havaskerque-La Motte Line – a line just behind the most forward positions – crossed the canalised river:

St Floris and St Venant from a 1:10,000 scale trench map
St Floris and St Venant from a 1:10,000 scale trench map, revised to 22 June 1918. Each numbered square is 1,000 yds. Click for larger image. Credit: IWM/TNA/GreatWarDigital

At this point, Greg was 10 miles (16 km) from the squadron’s airfield at Rely, and needed somewhere nearer to land.  He had 2,500ft of altitude to play with.

Trézennes

Trézennes, also variously spelt as Treizennes and Tresennes, was an airfield just south east of Aire-sur-la-Lys.  The admirable Anciens Aerodromes  website gives the location of Trézennes aerodrome as 50°37’24″N, 2°25’25″E (here on Google maps). 

The airfield was known to 42 Squadron, as the squadron had moved there from Chocques on 9 April 1918 when Operation Michael of the Spring Offensives began:

Tuesday 9 April 1918 – Operation Georgette Begins and 42 Squadron Relocates

The squadron’s subsequent move from Trézennes to Rely was on 25 April 1918.

Although from Greg’s description Trézennes airfield had clearly been colonised by the army on 4 June 1918 (even if, as he was later to say, “they had no bloody business being there”) the Imperial War Museum has a couple of aerial photos of Trézennes that pose a bit of a puzzle.  They are described as showing the airfield in use by 14 Squadron RNAS (Hadley Page bombers) on 1 June 1918.  Here is one of the photos: 

THE GERMAN SPRING OFFENSIVE, MARCH-JULY 1918

Trezennes© IWM (Q 11552)  

It is rather hard to reconcile this description with Greg’s experience three days later.  And it is odd that the IWM description should refer to the RNAS when it had ceased to exist on 1 April 1918.  Possibly the IWM photographs are mis-dated.

“Standing Crops 6 feet High”

Although 6 ft (1.8 m) may seem implausible for a crop height to modern readers, it is easy to forget that today’s crops of cereals such as wheat and barley are ultra-dwarf varieties.  Their forebears of the decades and centuries before the “Green Revolution” of the 1960s were much taller.  For example, an ancient Italian variety of wheat (Mirabella) could reportedly grow 84 inches (7 ft, 2.1 m) tall, as reported here.  Or, of course, the crop might not have been a cereal but may have been something like sunflowers!  So, even allowing for a less than perfectly accurate assessment of its height by Greg, something growing to 6 ft in the field was perfectly feasible.

The Official Casualty Report

The official casualty report bears out Greg’s account of the day.  This image is courtesy of Andrew Pentland of the hugely informative www.airhistory.org.uk website:

Casualty report
Casualty report – click for larger image. Credit: Andrew Pentland.
Short report: Pilot and Observer uninjured.  Machine left aerodrome 10.0am.  R.P.M. dropped to 750 and engine backfiring badly, tried to land on TREIZENNES Aerodrome, found ground covered with troops drilling, turned to the right and had to land in standing crops, turning upside down at 11.0am.
Damage:- All main planes damaged.  Fin and rudder damaged. 2 rear upper cross members of fuselage broken. 2 centre section struts broken and all fittings damaged.  L.H. joint plate L & M damaged.  Fuselage fitting R.H. at top of No 3 strut damaged.  Undercarriage damaged. Scarff gun mounting wrecked.  L.H. and R.H. magnetos damaged. Magneto platform broken. Camshaft doubtful.  Exhaust pipes damaged. Recommended to be struck off charge of No 42 Squadron and transferred to No 1 A.D. for repair.
Recommended to be struck off charge of 1st (Corps) Wing and No 42 Squadron and transferred to No 1 A.D. for repair.

So, a mere three days after E102 had been accepted by 42 Squadron, it was struck off its charge.  Not quite a write-off, but certainly a major repair job.

“Pilot and Observer uninjured”

Both Greg and 2nd Lt. Marsh were evidently very lucky on this occasion.  It was probably truer to say that Greg was only slightly injured (hurt shoulder, split lip) rather than uninjured. And all his life he had a slightly weepy left eye, as his tear duct became permanently blocked when the bridge of his nose banged on the combing above the dashboard. On that subject, Rob Parsons (Greg’s son-in-law and my stepfather) remembers him saying that when he recovered he tried to get in the same position on another aircraft, but found it impossible to get the whole of his body below the level of the cockpit combing, where he had been trapped.

2nd Lt. Marsh’s luck, however, was to desert him before the month was out.

 

Tuesday 30 April 1918 – Zone Calls Again

As Greg enters his last week at Yatesbury, the first flight of the day saw some consolidation work on zone calls, and the second flight didn’t end well:

Log book entry
Log book entry
Date: 30.4.18 
Hour: 8.15 
Machine type and No.: BE2E 8660 
Passenger: – 
Time: 35 m 
Height: 600 
Course: Zone calls 
Remarks: –
Date: 30.4.18 
Hour: 11.30 
Machine type and No.: BE2E 1358 
Passenger: – 
Time: 40 m 
Height: 2000 
Course: Aerodrome 
Remarks: Practice Crashed on landing

This was the second day running of zone call work, as explained in yesterday’s post:

https://gregswar.com/2018/04/29/monday-29-april-1918-zone-calls/

The question arises whether the crash on landing at the end of the second flight was deliberate, so as to practice what happens in the event of a crash. The absence of a full stop or other punctuation mark after ‘Practice’ leans in the direction of that interpretation.  Leaning the opposite way, though, are (a) the capital C of ‘Crashed’, and the fact that the past participle (‘Crashed’) rather than the noun (‘Crash’) was used.  For my money, the crash wasn’t deliberate – though no doubt useful practice!

No flying the following day.  Greg’s next log book entry is for Thursday 2 May 1918.

Monday 1 April 1918 – A Significant Day

Log book entry

Easter Monday 1918 was a significant day in several respects:

The RAF’s Birthday

RAF roundel

First, it was the day on which the Royal Air Force was formed, by an amalgamation of the Army’s Royal Flying Corps and the Royal Naval Air Service.

Greg’s RAF Commission

Secondly, and not unconnected with the first point, it was the date from which Greg’s commission in the RAF was effective.

Greg's RAF Commission
Greg’s RAF Commission, dated 1 November 1918 but effective from 1 April 1918. Click or tap for larger image.

First Flight in RE8

Thirdly, it was the date of his first flight in an RE8, the aircraft of his future squadron in France. Back to dual control for this.  See the ‘Setting the Scene’ article on the Royal Aircraft Factory RE8 here.

Log book
Log book

 

Date: 1.4.18 
Hour: 3.15 
Machine type and No.: DH7226 
Passenger: – 
Time: 30 mins 
Height: 1500 
Course: [Aerodrome] 
Remarks: Practice forced landings on aerodrome
Date: 1.4.18 
Hour: 4.5 
Machine type and No.: RE3551 
Passenger: Self 
Time: 10 mins 
Height: 1000 
Course: [Aerodrome] 
Remarks: Dual.  Forced down by rain
Date: 1.4.18 
Hour: 5.35 
Machine type and No.: DH7672 
Passenger: – 
Time: 40 mins 
Height: 1600 
Course: [Aerodrome] 
Remarks: Practice turns
Date: 1.4.18 
Hour: 6.40 
Machine type and No.: RE3551 
Passenger: Self 
Time: 25 mins 
Height: 3000 
Course: [Aerodrome] 
Remarks: Dual.  Flying straight & turns
Date: 1.4.18 
Hour: 7.30 
Machine type and No.: DH7672 
Passenger: – 
Time: 35 mins 
Height: 2600 
Course: [Aerodrome] 
Remarks: Practice S turns. Crashed.

Crash!

And fourthly, as the final log book entry of the day shows, it was the first time that Greg crashed an aeroplane: DH.6 7672, on the last flight of the day. Obviously not badly, as he was flying again the next day and the aircraft was soon back in service, but probably his ego was bruised if nothing else. 

As the US aviator Chuck Yeager said, long after the First World War:

If you can walk away from a landing, it’s a good landing. If you use the airplane the next day, it’s an outstanding landing.


RAF Type A Roundel (WW1) credit: Wikimedia user NiD.29. Licensed under CC BY-SA 3.0, adapted with white surround.

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