Tag: RE8

Another disappointing shoot today.  After yesterday’s perplexing lack of success with 346 SB because the shell bursts could not be observed, today’s shoot with 1/1 West Riding Heavy Battery (two 60 pounders) was thwarted for another reason: enemy aircraft.  

Log Book

Date: 16.9.18 
Time Out: 10.35 
Rounds Lewis: - 
Rounds Vickers: - 
Bombs: 4 
Time on RE8s: 160 hrs 50 mins 
RE8: 2500 
Observer: Lt Bett 
War Flying Time: 2 hrs 55 mins 
Height: 5000 
Course/Remarks: Shoot with 1/1 West Riding. Unsucc. E.A.

Squadron Record Book

Type and Number: R.E.8.2500
Pilot and Observer: P. Lt Gregory. O. Lt Bett
Duty: Art Reg on Cross roads.
Hour of Start: 10.35
Hour of Return: 13.30
Remarks: U. with 1/1 W.Riding H.B. (2-60 pdr) on crossroads N.23.c.0.9. [at FROMELLES] (P).
Called 11.15.  K. 11.17. [signals being received]  L.11.19. [battery ready to fire]  G. 11.20. [fire]
37 ranging rounds:- M.C.9.  1 A.  1 B.  8 C.  2 D.  25 W.
Unsuccessful owing to E.A.  11.55. sent M.Q. E.A. [wait: enemy aircraft]  12.15. send A. and G. [stand by; fire]  Battery did not fire and in answer to R.U.F. [are you firing?] put out E.A.  12.35. battery put out L.  1 burst observed and 6 W.  12.42. another E.A. appeared W. of FLEURBAIX and battery again ceased fire.  Several bursts missed owing to A.A. [anti-aircraft fire]
C.I. [returning to aerodrome] sent 12.45.
11.15.  fire burning in wood at J.18.d. & 24.b. (N. of LILLE). [same location as yesterday's reported fire]
12.05.  2 R.E.A. [reconnaissance enemy aircraft] R.12. sent.
12.15. explosion at H.6.d.8.9.
12.40.  1 F.E.A. [fighter enemy aircraft] about 5000’ over G.24.
1 E.K.B. [enemy kite balloon] at approx. J.6.d.  A.A. active.
11.10. 4-25lb bombs dropped at H.34.b.  4 bursts observed.
Vis. good.  Height 4/6000’.  Obs by P. & O. 

For more details on the codes sent, see here.

So three enemy aircraft – two reconnaissance and one fighter – spoilt the party.  This meant that the shoot on the crossroads at Fromelles was unsuccessful.  We don’t know precisely where the battery was located.  But we do know that two reconnaissance enemy aircraft over R.12 sufficiently disturbed them to stop firing.  So we can reasonably conclude that the battery was probably somewhere to the south of Estaires.  The following map shows the locations of more precisely known features and events:

1/1 West Riding Heavy Battery

The 1/1 West Riding Heavy Battery of the Royal Garrison Artillery was a unit of the part-time Territorial Force (TF).  The TF was a forerunner to the Territorial Army (TA).  Wikipedia reports:

1/1st West Riding Bty was detached to 49th Bde RGA (normally composed of 8-inch howitzers) with Fourth Army from 21 August to 16 September, during the Second Battle of the Somme returning to 28th Bde thereafter. It was with 28th Bde during Fifth Army’s pursuit of the defeated German army towards the Scheldt in October 1918, when the ‘heavies’ were principally employed on harassing fire on the roads and tracks the Germans were using, and on concentrations of fire on headquarters and exits from villages, while trying to avoid civilian casualties. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Riding_Heavy_Battery,_Royal_Garrison_Artillery, References omitted]

We know from Greg’s and 42 Sqn RAF’s records that on 16 September 1918 at least two 60-pdrs were already in the Lys sector with the Fifth Army – prior to the push to the Scheldt, east of Lille (although they couldn’t know yet that that would happen).  And with their target being the crossroads at Fromelles, it looks as though they were indeed “employed on harassing fire on the roads and tracks the Germans were using”.

BL 60-Pounder

The 1/1 West Riding HB’s weapons were breech-loading 60-pounder (often abbreviated to 60-pdr) guns.  Although nominally ‘heavy’ guns, they were not as heavy as those operated by the siege batteries of the RGA.  (Even the ‘small’ 6-inch Howitzers fires 100 lb shells.) But they were true, 5-inch calibre guns, with a relatively long barrel (14 ft for the Mk Is).

The following photo, from the Imperial War Museum’s collection, shows a column towing a 60-pdr.  The barrel is shifted backwards, i.e. towards the direction of travel of the column.  This is to even up the weight distribution between the wheels of the gun carriage and those of the limber.

The IWM’s caption refers to the location being St Venant.  More precisely, it is the bridge over the weir on the River Lys, next to St Venant lock, just north of the village.  The direction of travel of the artillery train is south. The railings on the bridge have since been replaced.  But railings of the same pattern are still in position by the adjoining wharf, on the left in the following Google Maps street view image  Today they are painted a cheerful bright green.

Google Maps street view, looking north from St Venant towards the lock and weir on the River Lys, with the wharf on the left.

More on the 60-pounder, from Wikipedia, here.

Next up…

The next entry in Greg’s Log Book is for Wednesday 18 September 1918.